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	<description>Improv + Bagels = ?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Use it up! by Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=22#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wish I had an audience in the backseat of my car while I commute, because I have all kinds of ideas while I drive, and I have to throw them all away! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish I had an audience in the backseat of my car while I commute, because I have all kinds of ideas while I drive, and I have to throw them all away! <img src='http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Nailing Whispers to the Wall by jill bernard</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=19#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>jill bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=19#comment-67</guid>
		<description>It's the morning dew, baby!  The ephemeral nature is part of the magic.  Improv doesn't even look as good on tape as if you were there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the morning dew, baby!  The ephemeral nature is part of the magic.  Improv doesn&#8217;t even look as good on tape as if you were there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NYT article on Improv by Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=16#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=16#comment-59</guid>
		<description>Rambling comments, without enough thought put into them to deserve too much heed:

One of the things I hate about "heinous acts" on stage: be it something obviously uncomfortable like rape, or something that American audiences will make room for, like senseless murder, is that its almost always a dishonest performance, in a sense.  The characters are almost always cartoony caricatures or cardboard stand-ins.

There's a guy in one of my classes who constantly kills people on stage.  He almost always does it when he (A) doesn't know how to resolve a conflict or (B) disconnects with his scene partner and doesn't know what to do. (Of course, the converse is that people often don't want to connect with characters being killed either.  How many times does a character get shot and continue standing there, disbelieving or denying that the bullet really hurt)

Anyway, its interesting that the article talks about resentment, rather than "appalled" or "disgusted".  I think an audience resents it when you (A) make them laugh at something they don't want to laugh at or (B) lead them down a road and then force them to abandon you when you turn the subject to something that's too uncomfortable.

If a scene is going to be about something that difficult, I think that it has to be an extremely honest scene.  That means a few things: not surprising with a horrible subject for one... say, having a sympathetic (or cartoony villianous) character turn out to be a rapist, pedophile, etc.

I suspect that a good improvised scene about rape isn't going to have the rapist on stage for long, if only because most of us aren't really willing to try and honestly portray a rapist.  Even if I were willing to put myself there, I'm not really willing to make my audiences feel unsafe about that subject.  For that matter, most of us aren't willing to portray the victim, at least until after the fact.  I'm not sure that's the kind of freefall we want to push ourselves into, because the character (and therefore the audience) are also in freefall.

So I'd guess a healthy improvised scene about rape is probably an after-the-fact scene, and ends up being about recovery, or acceptance, or simply dealing with a broken world.  And there's actually a surprising amount of healthy humor to be found in those subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rambling comments, without enough thought put into them to deserve too much heed:</p>
<p>One of the things I hate about &#8220;heinous acts&#8221; on stage: be it something obviously uncomfortable like rape, or something that American audiences will make room for, like senseless murder, is that its almost always a dishonest performance, in a sense.  The characters are almost always cartoony caricatures or cardboard stand-ins.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a guy in one of my classes who constantly kills people on stage.  He almost always does it when he (A) doesn&#8217;t know how to resolve a conflict or (B) disconnects with his scene partner and doesn&#8217;t know what to do. (Of course, the converse is that people often don&#8217;t want to connect with characters being killed either.  How many times does a character get shot and continue standing there, disbelieving or denying that the bullet really hurt)</p>
<p>Anyway, its interesting that the article talks about resentment, rather than &#8220;appalled&#8221; or &#8220;disgusted&#8221;.  I think an audience resents it when you (A) make them laugh at something they don&#8217;t want to laugh at or (B) lead them down a road and then force them to abandon you when you turn the subject to something that&#8217;s too uncomfortable.</p>
<p>If a scene is going to be about something that difficult, I think that it has to be an extremely honest scene.  That means a few things: not surprising with a horrible subject for one&#8230; say, having a sympathetic (or cartoony villianous) character turn out to be a rapist, pedophile, etc.</p>
<p>I suspect that a good improvised scene about rape isn&#8217;t going to have the rapist on stage for long, if only because most of us aren&#8217;t really willing to try and honestly portray a rapist.  Even if I were willing to put myself there, I&#8217;m not really willing to make my audiences feel unsafe about that subject.  For that matter, most of us aren&#8217;t willing to portray the victim, at least until after the fact.  I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the kind of freefall we want to push ourselves into, because the character (and therefore the audience) are also in freefall.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d guess a healthy improvised scene about rape is probably an after-the-fact scene, and ends up being about recovery, or acceptance, or simply dealing with a broken world.  And there&#8217;s actually a surprising amount of healthy humor to be found in those subjects.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Erin&#8217;s bookshelf: Improvising Scenes from the Inside Out by Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=11#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=11#comment-12</guid>
		<description>Not at all by coincidence I just started reading Guru last night. 

I was surprised by the page-turner quality of the chapters (and was thus more tired than i should have been during my 10am meeting...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all by coincidence I just started reading Guru last night. </p>
<p>I was surprised by the page-turner quality of the chapters (and was thus more tired than i should have been during my 10am meeting&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Erin&#8217;s bookshelf: Improvising Scenes from the Inside Out by Brendon</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=11#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=11#comment-7</guid>
		<description>Wow, by coincidence I just started rereading this yesterday.

I really enjoy his conversational writing style, and his 'let's be honest about what improvisers are really like' approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, by coincidence I just started rereading this yesterday.</p>
<p>I really enjoy his conversational writing style, and his &#8216;let&#8217;s be honest about what improvisers are really like&#8217; approach.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome! by Brendon</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=9#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=9#comment-6</guid>
		<description>You guys rock!

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys rock!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome! by Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=9#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=9#comment-5</guid>
		<description>Oh, I didn't: its the "places" in other places :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I didn&#8217;t: its the &#8220;places&#8221; in other places <img src='http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome! by David Wahl</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=9#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=9#comment-4</guid>
		<description>Don't forget the Living Playbook...

http://www.unexpectedproductions.org/living_playbook.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the Living Playbook&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unexpectedproductions.org/living_playbook.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.unexpectedproductions.org/living_playbook.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Style of the Week: The Decades, 1890s-1920s by Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=6#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=6#comment-3</guid>
		<description>Good point... I'm going to roll out our styles and games wiki soon, and I'll definitely add sections for these.

Slang is especially interesting, because there will often be different sections for the various classes and cultures that were important at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point&#8230; I&#8217;m going to roll out our styles and games wiki soon, and I&#8217;ll definitely add sections for these.</p>
<p>Slang is especially interesting, because there will often be different sections for the various classes and cultures that were important at the time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Style of the Week: The Decades, 1890s-1920s by David Wahl</title>
		<link>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=6#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lordbeefus.com/bagelprov/?p=6#comment-2</guid>
		<description>Might I suggest that you also add slang and acting styles to your rundown?

Using the right slang really helps the audience picture where you are. Also, the only experience most people have with actually seeing other decades is on film, so in some cases it helps to mimic the acting style from that era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I suggest that you also add slang and acting styles to your rundown?</p>
<p>Using the right slang really helps the audience picture where you are. Also, the only experience most people have with actually seeing other decades is on film, so in some cases it helps to mimic the acting style from that era.</p>
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